In a world where people are increasingly doubting the potential of AI, you can count on Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, to be the last one hyping up how AI will be the fundamental force that changes society.

Talking to WIRED senior writer Lauren Goode at The Big Interview event on Tuesday in San Francisco, Huang called the trend of AI “a reset of computing as we know of [it] over the last 60 years.” The force of AI is, he said, “so incredible, it’s not as if you can compete against it. You are either on this wave, or you missed that wave.”

That means, Jensen said, “people are starting to realize that AI is like the energy and communications infrastructure—and now there’s going to be a digital intelligence infrastructure.”

The task for Huang now, however, is whether he can get others, especially governments around the world, to agree on his vision.

Huang was the only interviewee at the event who phoned in from outside the country. He was in Thailand, where Huang said he lived for five years as a kid and where, just today, he met with Paetongtarn Shinawatra, Thailand’s prime minister to talk about building "world-class AI infrastructure" in the country together.

It’s the latest stop of Huang’s whirlwind tour this year to pitch governments on the idea that they should forge their individual paths to the future by building their own AI infrastructure, processing their own national data, having their own AI systems, and, obviously, buying Nvidia chips for that purpose.

The pitch seems to have worked pretty well. Thailand is the new addition to a list of